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		<title>On IE8: Pragmatic and practical, but I still don&#8217;t like it</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[For some background on this post, please start by reading Aaron Gustafson&#8217;s Beyond DOCTYPE: Web Standards, Forward Compatibility, and IE8 on this week&#8217;s edition of A List Apart, or any of the links from my Internet Explorer 8 round-up post. This post is an extended version of my comment there. About 6 years ago, I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="editors-note">For some background on this post, please start by reading Aaron Gustafson&#8217;s <a href="http://alistapart.com/articles/beyonddoctype">Beyond DOCTYPE: Web Standards, Forward Compatibility, and IE8</a> on this week&#8217;s edition of <span class="website title">A List Apart</span>, or any of the links from my <a href="http://tiffanybbrown.com/2008/01/22/internet-explorer-8-round-up/">Internet Explorer 8 round-up</a> post. This post is an extended version of my <a href="http://tiffanybbrown.com/2008/01/22/internet-explorer-8-round-up/#comment-90568">comment</a> there.</p>
<p>About 6 years ago, I remember taking part in a conversation about preferred browsers on the <a href="http://janemag.com/" class="magazine title">Jane</a> magazine message boards. IE 5.x was still king of the PC world. IE 6 was coming on strong. Netscape 4 was still widely used by universities. Netscape 6 was on its way. </p>
<p>Most of the respondents said they preferred Internet Explorer. Why? Because sites just &#8220;look right&#8221; and &#8220;work better&#8221; in Internet Explorer. My response at the time was simple: if a site doesn&#8217;t work in Netscape, <em>it&#8217;s because the web developer didn&#8217;t know what (s)he was doing</em>.  </p>
<p>Of course, they didn&#8217;t care. They were far more into Sephora than HTML code quality. As far as they were concerned, Netscape was the problem. They didn&#8217;t blame crap code, or Microsoft for developing a browser that stomped harder than a Catalonian flamenco dancer all over the W3C specs and allowed ugly code to thrive. <strong>They blamed Netscape</strong>.</p>
<p>I was reminded of that conversation when I first read Microsoft&#8217;s recent announcement about Internet Explorer 8. After my initial  <q class="i">D*MNF*CKINGBLOODYHELL!JUSTBREAKTHF*CKINGWEBALREADYMICROSOFT!WHATTHEF*CK? IAMTIREDOFYOURAGGEDYBASTARDSMAKINGMYDAYJOB1000TIMESHARDERTHANITNEEDSTOBEBECAUSEYOUCAN&#8217;T DEVELOPABROWSERTHATFOLLOWSAF*CKING10YEAROLDSPEC!!!</q> reaction passed, I came to the following conclusion: <strong>this is the best approach to a bad situation</strong>.</p>
<p>Microsoft does not want to be where Netscape was. It&#8217;s a sad but true fact is that if a site breaks, the average web user &#8212; and, dare I say, average web developer &#8212; will <strong>blame the browser</strong>. Microsoft is too entrenched in corporate intranets and applications to let that happen. Doing so would cause a sh*tstorm of massive proportions for the company. From a business perspective, I understand. </p>
<p>And while I am also not happy about the default implementation (as <cite>Jeremy Keith</cite> explained <q cite="http://adactio.com/journal/1402">Unless you explicitly declare that you want IE8 to behave as IE8, it will behave as IE7.</q>), <strong>opting-in to web standards eliminates the need to revise existing code</strong>. </p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s potentially a nail in the coffin for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_enhancement">progressive enhancement</a> techniques. Yes, we&#8217;ll still have to do something special to cater to Microsoft browsers. <ins datetime="2008-01-25T16:48:14+00:00">Yes, this could freeze web development at the IE7 level for years to come.</ins> But I believe &#8212; and it pains me to say it given the hate-hate more relationship I have with Microsoft browsers &#8212; that <strong>Microsoft, given its position, had no other choice</strong>.</p>
<p>But putting pragmatic approaches and practical considerations aside, I think <a href="http://weblog.200ok.com.au/2008/01/opt-out-version-targeting-is-spam.html"><cite>Ben Buchanan</cite></a> said it best: </p>
<blockquote cite="http://weblog.200ok.com.au/2008/01/opt-out-version-targeting-is-spam.html"><p>
If they&#8217;ve included a <code>DOCTYPE</code>, they&#8217;ve declared they want to render to standards. If they did that in ignorance, it&#8217;s time they started earning their money instead of letting <span class="software">Dreamweaver<span> do their jobs.<br />
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<p><b>Related:</b> <a href="http://tiffanybbrown.com/2008/01/22/internet-explorer-8-round-up/">Internet Explorer 8 Round Up</a></p>
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