Comments on: Why “sassy” just doesn’t go over very well with black folks http://tiffanybbrown.com/2009/03/01/why-is-sassy-racist/ A web log about web development and internet culture with frequent detours into other stuff. Tue, 15 May 2012 22:15:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Adama Zuman http://tiffanybbrown.com/2009/03/01/why-is-sassy-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-91283 Adama Zuman Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:33:22 +0000 http://tiffanybbrown.com/?p=1835#comment-91283 All fair points but why care about what people in other communities think? Do Hispanic Americans get upset about the mental imagery African Americans conjure up? What are the consequences for their lives? I think we're the only ethnic group who sees itself through other's people's eyes. In any case, if we cared as much about fair sentencing laws and crime prevention as we do about NY Post Cartoons or RihaBrown then maybe just maybe things would change. All fair points but why care about what people in other communities think?
Do Hispanic Americans get upset about the mental imagery African Americans conjure up?
What are the consequences for their lives?

I think we're the only ethnic group who sees itself through other's people's eyes.
In any case, if we cared as much about fair sentencing laws and crime prevention as we do about NY Post Cartoons or RihaBrown then maybe just maybe things would change.

]]> By: Adama Zuman http://tiffanybbrown.com/2009/03/01/why-is-sassy-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-93444 Adama Zuman Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:33:00 +0000 http://tiffanybbrown.com/?p=1835#comment-93444 All fair points but why care about what people in other communities think? Do Hispanic Americans get upset about the mental imagery African Americans conjure up? What are the consequences for their lives? I think we're the only ethnic group who sees itself through other's people's eyes. In any case, if we cared as much about fair sentencing laws and crime prevention as we do about NY Post Cartoons or RihaBrown then maybe just maybe things would change. All fair points but why care about what people in other communities think?
Do Hispanic Americans get upset about the mental imagery African Americans conjure up?
What are the consequences for their lives?

I think we're the only ethnic group who sees itself through other's people's eyes.
In any case, if we cared as much about fair sentencing laws and crime prevention as we do about NY Post Cartoons or RihaBrown then maybe just maybe things would change.

]]> By: tiffanybbrown http://tiffanybbrown.com/2009/03/01/why-is-sassy-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-91282 tiffanybbrown Wed, 04 Mar 2009 22:05:22 +0000 http://tiffanybbrown.com/?p=1835#comment-91282 And what I'm saying to you is that words -- "framing," "narrative," etc. are part and parcel of that process. And they are used to shape policy. Why, for example, care about fair sentencing laws or crime prevention if <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-oe-goff28-2009feb28,0,6220297.story" target="_blank">they're all animals anyway</a>? Why care about why many black fathers are absent if all black women are sassy, emasculating loudmouths who run men off? Do you see where I'm going with this? Getting upset about the mental imagery and association that "sassy" conjures up has EVERYTHING to do with those "more important problems" And what I'm saying to you is that words — "framing," "narrative," etc. are part and parcel of that process. And they are used to shape policy. Why, for example, care about fair sentencing laws or crime prevention if they're all animals anyway? Why care about why many black fathers are absent if all black women are sassy, emasculating loudmouths who run men off?

Do you see where I'm going with this? Getting upset about the mental imagery and association that "sassy" conjures up has EVERYTHING to do with those "more important problems"

]]> By: tiffanybbrown http://tiffanybbrown.com/2009/03/01/why-is-sassy-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-93443 tiffanybbrown Wed, 04 Mar 2009 22:05:00 +0000 http://tiffanybbrown.com/?p=1835#comment-93443 And what I'm saying to you is that words -- "framing," "narrative," etc. are part and parcel of that process. And they are used to shape policy. Why, for example, care about fair sentencing laws or crime prevention if <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-oe-goff28-2009feb28,0,6220297.story" rel="nofollow">they're all animals anyway</a>? Why care about why many black fathers are absent if all black women are sassy, emasculating loudmouths who run men off? Do you see where I'm going with this? Getting upset about the mental imagery and association that "sassy" conjures up has EVERYTHING to do with those "more important problems" And what I'm saying to you is that words — "framing," "narrative," etc. are part and parcel of that process. And they are used to shape policy. Why, for example, care about fair sentencing laws or crime prevention if they're all animals anyway? Why care about why many black fathers are absent if all black women are sassy, emasculating loudmouths who run men off?

Do you see where I'm going with this? Getting upset about the mental imagery and association that "sassy" conjures up has EVERYTHING to do with those "more important problems"

]]> By: tiffanybbrown http://tiffanybbrown.com/2009/03/01/why-is-sassy-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-91281 tiffanybbrown Wed, 04 Mar 2009 22:04:11 +0000 http://tiffanybbrown.com/?p=1835#comment-91281 And what I'm saying to you is that words -- "framing," "narrative," etc. are part and parcel of that process. And they are used to shape policy. Why, for example, care about fair sentencing laws or crime prevention if <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-oe-goff28-2009feb28,0,6220297.story" target="_blank">they're all animals anyway</a>? Why care about why many black fathers are absent if all black women are sassy, emasculating loudmouths who run men off? And what I'm saying to you is that words — "framing," "narrative," etc. are part and parcel of that process. And they are used to shape policy. Why, for example, care about fair sentencing laws or crime prevention if they're all animals anyway? Why care about why many black fathers are absent if all black women are sassy, emasculating loudmouths who run men off?

]]> By: tiffanybbrown http://tiffanybbrown.com/2009/03/01/why-is-sassy-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-93442 tiffanybbrown Wed, 04 Mar 2009 22:04:00 +0000 http://tiffanybbrown.com/?p=1835#comment-93442 And what I'm saying to you is that words -- "framing," "narrative," etc. are part and parcel of that process. And they are used to shape policy. Why, for example, care about fair sentencing laws or crime prevention if <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-oe-goff28-2009feb28,0,6220297.story" rel="nofollow">they're all animals anyway</a>? Why care about why many black fathers are absent if all black women are sassy, emasculating loudmouths who run men off? And what I'm saying to you is that words — "framing," "narrative," etc. are part and parcel of that process. And they are used to shape policy. Why, for example, care about fair sentencing laws or crime prevention if they're all animals anyway? Why care about why many black fathers are absent if all black women are sassy, emasculating loudmouths who run men off?

]]> By: Adama Zuman http://tiffanybbrown.com/2009/03/01/why-is-sassy-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-91279 Adama Zuman Wed, 04 Mar 2009 20:23:59 +0000 http://tiffanybbrown.com/?p=1835#comment-91279 I believe kids are off limits and agree with the fucking us over part but So what? It's their perception, would a retraction, an apology change it? If somebody thinks you're sassy wouldn't you rather they come out and say it? Stories about insensitive words get so much traction in the press while more important problems (HIV, Crime, Education) with bigger real life consequences for real life people stay ignored. That's all I'm saying. I believe kids are off limits and agree with the fucking us over part but So what?
It's their perception, would a retraction, an apology change it?
If somebody thinks you're sassy wouldn't you rather they come out and say it?

Stories about insensitive words get so much traction in the press while more important problems (HIV, Crime, Education) with bigger real life consequences for real life people stay ignored. That's all I'm saying.

]]> By: Adama Zuman http://tiffanybbrown.com/2009/03/01/why-is-sassy-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-93441 Adama Zuman Wed, 04 Mar 2009 20:23:00 +0000 http://tiffanybbrown.com/?p=1835#comment-93441 I believe kids are off limits and agree with the fucking us over part but So what? It's their perception, would a retraction, an apology change it? If somebody thinks you're sassy wouldn't you rather they come out and say it? Stories about insensitive words get so much traction in the press while more important problems (HIV, Crime, Education) with bigger real life consequences for real life people stay ignored. That's all I'm saying. I believe kids are off limits and agree with the fucking us over part but So what?
It's their perception, would a retraction, an apology change it?
If somebody thinks you're sassy wouldn't you rather they come out and say it?

Stories about insensitive words get so much traction in the press while more important problems (HIV, Crime, Education) with bigger real life consequences for real life people stay ignored. That's all I'm saying.

]]> By: tiffanybbrown http://tiffanybbrown.com/2009/03/01/why-is-sassy-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-91278 tiffanybbrown Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:54:21 +0000 http://tiffanybbrown.com/?p=1835#comment-91278 EXACTLY Cecily. "Sassy" is not complimentary. Maybe folks are confusing "sassy" and "<a href="http://m-w.com/dictionary/saucy" target="_blank">saucy</a>." Either way, it's an uncomfortable word to use when there are better alternatives. EXACTLY Cecily. "Sassy" is not complimentary. Maybe folks are confusing "sassy" and "saucy." Either way, it's an uncomfortable word to use when there are better alternatives.

]]> By: tiffanybbrown http://tiffanybbrown.com/2009/03/01/why-is-sassy-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-93440 tiffanybbrown Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:54:00 +0000 http://tiffanybbrown.com/?p=1835#comment-93440 EXACTLY Cecily. "Sassy" is not complimentary. Maybe folks are confusing "sassy" and "<a href="http://m-w.com/dictionary/saucy" rel="nofollow">saucy</a>." Either way, it's an uncomfortable word to use when there are better alternatives. EXACTLY Cecily. "Sassy" is not complimentary. Maybe folks are confusing "sassy" and "saucy." Either way, it's an uncomfortable word to use when there are better alternatives.

]]> By: tiffanybbrown http://tiffanybbrown.com/2009/03/01/why-is-sassy-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-91277 tiffanybbrown Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:31:49 +0000 http://tiffanybbrown.com/?p=1835#comment-91277 no, adama, we've been listening to the right and the rich label these things "political correctness" to hide the fact that they're fucking us over. naming and words are powerful, as evidenced by your use of the phrase "political correctness." they have an incredilbe propaganda machine and you've been pwned by it. the "sassy" archetype isn't about being polite. it's about realizing that words shape images and perception, and that this has real life consequences for real life people. no, adama, we've been listening to the right and the rich label these things "political correctness" to hide the fact that they're fucking us over. naming and words are powerful, as evidenced by your use of the phrase "political correctness." they have an incredilbe propaganda machine and you've been pwned by it.

the "sassy" archetype isn't about being polite. it's about realizing that words shape images and perception, and that this has real life consequences for real life people.

]]> By: tiffanybbrown http://tiffanybbrown.com/2009/03/01/why-is-sassy-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-93439 tiffanybbrown Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:31:00 +0000 http://tiffanybbrown.com/?p=1835#comment-93439 no, adama, we've been listening to the right and the rich label these things "political correctness" to hide the fact that they're fucking us over. naming and words are powerful, as evidenced by your use of the phrase "political correctness." they have an incredilbe propaganda machine and you've been pwned by it. the "sassy" archetype isn't about being polite. it's about realizing that words shape images and perception, and that this has real life consequences for real life people. no, adama, we've been listening to the right and the rich label these things "political correctness" to hide the fact that they're fucking us over. naming and words are powerful, as evidenced by your use of the phrase "political correctness." they have an incredilbe propaganda machine and you've been pwned by it.

the "sassy" archetype isn't about being polite. it's about realizing that words shape images and perception, and that this has real life consequences for real life people.

]]> By: tiffanybbrown http://tiffanybbrown.com/2009/03/01/why-is-sassy-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-91276 tiffanybbrown Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:29:55 +0000 http://tiffanybbrown.com/?p=1835#comment-91276 no, adama, we've been listening to the right and the rich label these things "political correctness" to hide the fact that they're fucking us over. it's their distraction technique. they have an incredilbe propaganda machine and you've been pwned by it. no, adama, we've been listening to the right and the rich label these things "political correctness" to hide the fact that they're fucking us over. it's their distraction technique.

they have an incredilbe propaganda machine and you've been pwned by it.

]]> By: tiffanybbrown http://tiffanybbrown.com/2009/03/01/why-is-sassy-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-91275 tiffanybbrown Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:29:24 +0000 http://tiffanybbrown.com/?p=1835#comment-91275 no, adama, we've been listening to the right and the rich label these things "political correctness" to hide the fact that they're fucking us over. they have an incredilbe propaganda machine and you've been pwned by it. no, adama, we've been listening to the right and the rich label these things "political correctness" to hide the fact that they're fucking us over.

they have an incredilbe propaganda machine and you've been pwned by it.

]]> By: tiffanybbrown http://tiffanybbrown.com/2009/03/01/why-is-sassy-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-93437 tiffanybbrown Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:29:00 +0000 http://tiffanybbrown.com/?p=1835#comment-93437 no, adama, we've been listening to the right and the rich label these things "political correctness" to hide the fact that they're fucking us over. they have an incredilbe propaganda machine and you've been pwned by it. no, adama, we've been listening to the right and the rich label these things "political correctness" to hide the fact that they're fucking us over.

they have an incredilbe propaganda machine and you've been pwned by it.

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